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【访谈】王毅就当前中美关系接受新华社专访-中英文双语对照China-US Relations
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2020年8月5日,国务委员兼外交部长王毅接受新华社专访。全文如下:

State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi had an exclusive interview with Xinhua News Agency on 5 August 2020. The following is the transcript.

王毅就当前中美关系接受新华社专访

Interview on Current China-US Relations Given by State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi to Xinhua News Agency

 

新华社记者:美国务卿蓬佩奥近日在加利福尼亚州尼克松总统图书馆发表讲话,声称自尼克松总统以来美历届政府的对华接触政策没有取得美方预期目标,已经失败。美国内很多人质疑、批判蓬佩奥讲话内容,认为没有提出清晰可行的前进道路,而更多是“意识形态咆哮”。你对此有何评论?

Xinhua: US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo asserted in his speech at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library that the policy of engagement with China pursued by successive US administrations since President Nixon’s has not produced its goal and has failed. Many people in the United States question his assertion, saying it was more of an “ideological rant” without any clear or feasible pathway forward. What is your comment?

 

王毅:所谓“美国对华接触政策失败”的论调重拾冷战思维,完全否定了中美交往几十年来取得的成果,不仅是对历史进程的无知,也是对中美两国人民的不尊重。这种散布“政治病毒”的做法理所当然会受到美国国内以及国际社会的质疑和批评。

Wang Yi: The assertion that US policy of engagement with China has failed is just a rehash of the Cold War mentality. It turns a blind eye to all that has been achieved in China-US relations over the past decades, shows ignorance of the historical process and lack of respect for the Chinese and American peoples. This is a political virus which is understandably questioned and rebuked by people in the United States and the international community.

 

40多年前,中美两国领导人之所以能够实现跨越太平洋的握手,最根本的一条就是双方都坚持了相互尊重、求同存异的原则,搁置了彼此意识形态的差异。1972年尼克松总统首次访华时,周恩来总理强调,中美双方要弄清楚彼此之间的分歧,努力寻找共同点,使我们两国的关系有一个新的开始。尼克松总统也明确表示,中美存在巨大分歧,但促使两国走到一起的,是双方拥有超过这些分歧的共同利益。两国发表的上海公报载明双方愿意相互尊重、求同存异的共识。

Over four decades ago, leaders of China and the United States made the handshake across the vast Pacific Ocean. What made this possible was that both countries adhered to the principle of mutual respect and seeking common ground while putting aside ideological differences. 

During President Nixon’s visit to China in 1972, Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai said that China and the US needed to be clear about our differences and find common ground, so as to reach a new starting point in bilateral ties. President Nixon responded that our two countries have great differences, and what brings us together is that we have common interests which transcend those differences. The Shanghai Communique issued by the two countries encapsulated their consensus to respect each other and seek common ground while setting aside differences.

 

之后的历史告诉世人,双方共同做出的这一重大抉择是完全正确的。建交40多年来,经过双方几代人的共同努力,中美关系成为世界上相互交融最深、合作领域最广、共同利益最大的双边关系之一。中美两国经济总量超过世界三分之一,对世界经济增长贡献率超过50%。双边贸易额较建交之初增长了250多倍,达世界五分之一,双向投资从几乎为零攀升到近2400亿美元,每年人员往来达500万人次。两国在涉及世界和平与发展的几乎所有全球性问题上都肩负着重要责任。这些都是不容否认,也无法否认的事实。

What has happened since then demonstrates that this monumental choice made by the two sides is the right one. Over the past 40 years and more since the two countries entered into diplomatic ties, several generations of Chinese and Americans have worked together to advance China-US relations. As a result, bilateral ties have become one of the most deeply interwoven relationships in the world with broadest cooperation areas and most extensive common interests. 

China and the US now account for over one-third of global economic output and over 50% of global growth. Bilateral trade volume has increased by over 250 times since the early days of diplomatic ties and takes up one-fifth of the global total. Two-way investment has jumped from almost zero to nearly US$240 billion, and annual two-way visits by the two peoples have reached five million. The two countries shoulder important responsibilities for almost all global issues concerning world peace and development. No one can deny these facts.

 

40多年后的今天,中美在社会制度等很多方面仍然完全不同,但这种不同过去、今天和将来都不会也不应影响两国继续和平共处、合作共赢。双方没有必要也不可能去改变对方,而是应尊重对方人民做出的自主选择。中国几十年来取得的巨大发展成就已经证明,中国特色社会主义道路不仅适合中国,始终得到中国人民最广泛、最坚定的支持,同时也造福给这个世界,惠及包括美国人民在内的各国人民。中国一定会继续按照人民的愿望,不断发展进步并为人类做出新的更大贡献。任何人试图阻挡或者改变这一进程,不仅是自不量力,而且是自寻烦恼。

Forty years on, while China and the US are quite different in social system and many other aspects, such differences have not affected the peaceful coexistence and cooperation between the two countries, and they should not affect their bilateral ties in the future. It is neither necessary nor possible for the two sides to change each other. Instead, we should respect the choice independently made by the people of the other side.

China’s major achievements in the past decades show that the path of socialism with Chinese characteristics fits China and enjoys the most extensive and firm support of the Chinese people. It has also benefited the world and people of other countries, including the American people.

China will continue to pursue development and progress to meet the desire of its people and make new, even greater contributions to mankind. Anyone who attempts to derail this process can only end in failure.

 

新华社记者:一段时间来,美方一些人不断声称,美中关系长期不公平、不对等,美方是中美交往中“吃亏”一方,美国帮助重建了中国。你认为这是否符合事实?

Xinhua: Some people in the United States claim that the China-US relationship has long been unfair and not reciprocal, and that the US has rebuilt China, but it has been taken advantage of. Do you think this is the case?

 

王毅:中美合作从来都不是一方给另一方的恩赐,也不是一方对另一方的剥夺,中美双方从合作中都获得了巨大收益,不存在谁吃亏、谁占谁便宜的问题。

Wang Yi: China-US cooperation has never been a case of one party giving favor to the other, or one party taking advantage of the other. Both countries have benefited much from this cooperation, and no one is being taken advantage of or being ripped off.

 

长期以来,中美两国通过优势互补、互利合作,形成相互融合的利益共同体。中国的快速发展既得益于同世界各国包括美国的开放合作,同样,中国的不断成长也反过来为美国等提供了持续增长的动力和巨大的市场空间。据统计,中美经贸关系支撑美国260万个就业岗位,两国贸易平均每年为每个美国家庭节省850美元的生活成本。美国企业在华投资兴业累计已超过7万家,年销售额达7000亿美元,其中97%都是盈利的。即使在中美贸易摩擦和新冠肺炎疫情影响下,绝大多数美国企业仍希望继续留在中国,并且逆势扩大对华投资。如果真像某些人所说,中美之间的合作是不公平、不对等的,这种状况怎能持续几十年之久?中美关系怎能发展到今天的这种深度和广度?

Mutually beneficial cooperation over the years have turned China and the US into a community with shared interests. China has achieved rapid growth in part thanks to its opening-up to and cooperation with the rest of the world, including the US. China’s continued growth has also created sustained demand and an enormous market for the US and other countries.

Statistics show that China-US business ties support 2.6 million American jobs. Trade with China helps each American family save US$850 every year. Over 70,000 American businesses have made investment in China with a total sales volume of US$700 billion. Among them, 97% are making a profit. Even with the trade friction and COVID-19, the vast majority of American companies in China still want to stay and are doubling down on investment in China.

If China-US cooperation were unfair and not reciprocal, how could it have continued for several decades? How could China-US ties have come such a long way? 

 

当然,全球化与自由贸易在创造发展红利的同时,也会给各自的经济结构和利益分配带来矛盾和问题。这就需要通过自身改革来加以调整,而不是自己生病,却让别人吃药。一味把责任归咎于别人,甚至指望通过所谓“脱钩”来解决问题,那只会是缘木求鱼、南辕北辙,最终还会进一步伤害美国的企业和人民。

Globalization and free trade have delivered development dividends, but they have also created tensions for countries and affected their economic structures and distribution of interests. This should be dealt with through internal reform. Acting like a sick person who forces others to take medicine for his own illness or even resorting to decoupling will not work. It is the American companies and people that will get badly hurt.

 

全球化发展到今天,各国利益相互交织。中方一向主张,中美两国发展不是非此即彼的关系,没有必要相互排斥,完全可以相互借力、相互成就。当前,世界经济正经受疫情严重冲击,中美作为世界上最大的两个经济体,理应坚持平等互惠,以合作而不是脱钩来推动两国关系的发展,并为这个世界承担起应尽的责任。

In the globalized world today, the interests of countries are closely intertwined. The development of China and of the US is not a zero-sum game, and we should not reject each other. What we should do is to draw on each other’s strength to achieve common development.

As COVID-19 takes its toll on the global economy, China and the US, the world’s two largest economies, should work for mutual benefit on an equal footing, stop attempts at decoupling and advance the relationship through cooperation, and live up to their responsibility for the world.

 

新华社记者:近段时间,美方采取了一系列破坏中美人文交流的消极举动,包括骚扰中国留学人员、干扰正常学术交流、限制打压中国媒体等。很多人认为,麦卡锡主义在美幽灵重现。你认为中美真的会陷入“新冷战”吗?

Xinhua: The United States has recently made a number of moves that undermine people-to-people and cultural exchanges with China. It has harassed Chinese students in the US, obstructed normal academic exchange, and imposed restrictions on Chinese media operating in the United States. Many people are concerned that this is a resurgence of McCarthyism. Do you think the two countries will fall into a new Cold War?

 

王毅:当前,中美关系正面临建交以来最严峻的局面,各领域交流合作均受到严重干扰,根本原因是美国国内一部分政治势力出于对中国的偏见和仇视,利用手中掌握的权力,编造各种谎言恶意抹黑中国,制造各种借口阻挠中美之间的正常往来。他们这么做,就是想复活麦卡锡主义的幽灵,破坏中美之间的联系,煽动两国民意的对立,损害两国互信的根基,从而把中美再次拖进冲突与对抗,把世界重新推入动荡与分裂。

Wang Yi: China-US relations are facing the gravest challenge since the establishment of diplomatic ties, and their exchanges and cooperation in many areas are being seriously disrupted. The root cause is that some American politicians who are biased against and hostile to China are using their power to smear China with fabrications and impede normal ties with China under various pretexts. What they want is to revive McCarthyism in an attempt to undermine US relations with China, stoke hostility between the two peoples, and erode trust between the two countries. Ultimately, they want to drag China and the US into renewed conflict and confrontation and plunge the world into chaos and division again.

 

中方不会让这样的阴谋得逞。我们坚决反对人为制造所谓“新冷战”,因为这完全违背中美两国人民的根本利益,完全背离世界发展进步的潮流。当年冷战给世界人民带来的创伤和痛苦绝不应重演。共谋和平,共促发展,才是世界各国的普遍愿望。如果谁要在21世纪的今天挑起所谓“新冷战”,那他就站到了历史前进的对立面,就是国际合作的最大破坏者,就必将被钉在历史的耻辱柱上。

China will not allow these people to get their way. We reject any attempt to create a so-called “new Cold War”, because it contravenes the fundamental interests of the Chinese and American peoples and the global trend toward development and progress. The Cold War, which inflicted great sufferings to the world, should not be allowed to repeat itself. Peace and development is what all countries aspire to. Anyone who tries to start a new Cold War in the 21st century will be on the wrong side of history and will only be remembered as the one who has upended international cooperation.

 

今天的中国并不是当年的苏联,我们更无意去做第二个美国。中国从不输出意识形态,也从不干涉别国内政。作为世界上最大的发展中国家和安理会常任理事国,中国将继续坚定不移地走和平发展道路,坚定不移地奉行互利共赢的开放战略,持之以恒做世界和平的推动者、全球发展的贡献者、国际秩序的维护者。

Today’s China is not the former Soviet Union. We have no intention of becoming another United States. China does not export ideology, and never interferes in other countries’ internal affairs. As the world’s largest developing country and a permanent member of the UN Security Council, China will stay committed to peaceful development and to pursuing an opening-up strategy of mutual benefit. China will continue to promote global peace and development and uphold the international order.

 

新华社记者:我们注意到,美国本届政府对中美之间进行对话态度冷淡,不断宣称“对话无用论”。蓬佩奥近日还声称,对中国要采取“不信任并核查”做法。你对此有何评论?

Xinhua: We have noted that the current US administration shuns dialogue with China and keeps claiming that dialogue is futile. Pompeo even recently called for taking a “distrust and verify” approach toward China. What is your view on such moves?

 

王毅:当代国际关系中,对话是解决分歧的明智选择,是建立互信的正确途径。要对话不要对抗,不仅是中方的立场,也是世界上绝大多数国家的共识。中美作为社会制度不同、历史文化各异的两个大国,有着各自的利益和关切,这很正常。关键是任何时候都不应单方面关上对话的大门,任由分歧、误判甚至对抗来主导两国关系。

Wang Yi: In international relations today, dialogue is the right way for settling issues and building trust. Favoring dialogue over confrontation is not only China’s position. It is also the consensus of the overwhelming majority of countries. China and the US are two major countries with different social systems, histories and cultures, and each has its own interests and concerns. This is natural. But what is important is that no one should unilaterally shut the door for dialogue at any time. Difference, misjudgment or confrontation should not be allowed to dominate their bilateral relations.

 

中方是一个负责任、有担当的大国,我们愿意堂堂正正地与美方开展坦率有效的沟通,准备以冷静和理智来面对美方的冲动和焦躁。我们随时可以与美方重启各层级、各领域的对话机制,任何问题都可以拿到桌面上来谈。我们还提出可以梳理制定关于合作、对话、管控分歧的三个清单,并为下步交流确定路线图。我们的目的只有一个,就是敦促美国放下傲慢和偏见,通过平等和建设性对话,缓解当前的紧张局面,回到不冲突不对抗、相互尊重、合作共赢的正确轨道。这才符合两国人民的共同利益,也是国际社会的普遍期待。

China is a major and responsible country. We are open and above board, and we are ready to enter into candid, effective consultation with the US side and make cool-headed and sensible response to the impulsive moves and anxiety of the US side. We are ready to restart the dialogue mechanisms with the US side at any level, in any area and at any time. All issues can be put on the table for discussion. We have proposed that the two countries draw up three lists respectively on cooperation, dialogue and issues that need proper management, and draw up a roadmap for future interactions. Our message is quite clear: We urge the US to stop acting with arrogance and prejudice, but enter into constructive dialogue with us on an equal footing. We hope that it will work with us to ease current tensions and put the relations back onto the right track of no conflict, no confrontation, mutual respect and win-win cooperation. This serves the shared interests of the two peoples and meets the expectation of the international community. 

 

新华社记者:近来香港问题在中美关系中非常突出。美方认为中方实施国安法是放弃了“一国两制”,对香港出台了一系列制裁措施。美方是否会在香港问题上制造更大麻烦?

Xinhua: Recently, Hong Kong has become a prominent issue in China-US relations. The US believes that by enacting the national security legislation, China has given up One Country, Two Systems. It has imposed a number of sanctions on Hong Kong. Do you expect the US to make more trouble on the Hong Kong issue?

 

王毅:香港是中国领土的一部分,香港事务属于中国内政。不干涉内政是国际关系基本准则,任何国家都不会容许别国肆意破坏自己国家的主权和领土完整。在联合国人权理事会最近一次会议上,70余国支持中国正当立场,谴责利用香港问题干涉中国内政,反映了国际社会的共同声音和公正立场。

Wang Yi: Hong Kong is part of China’s territory and Hong Kong affairs fall within China’s internal affairs. Non-interference in other countries’ internal affairs is a basic norm governing international relations, and no country will allow other countries to flagrantly sabotage its sovereignty or territorial integrity. At the recent session of the UN Human Rights Council, over 70 countries expressed support of China’s just stance and condemned the attempts to use the Hong Kong issue to interfere in China’s internal affairs. This speaks volumes for the common and just position of the international community.

 

国家安全立法是一国安身立命之本,也是各国的普遍法律实践。制定香港国安法弥补了香港长期以来存在的法律漏洞,有利于使“一国两制”方针在法治轨道上行稳致远,有利于保障香港的长治久安。数百万香港市民自发签名力挺国安法,说明香港民众渴望和平安定的生活,说明制定国安法深得人心,势在必行。

National security legislation underpins the very survival of any country, and it is a common legal practice of all countries. The legislation on safeguarding national security in Hong Kong has plugged the long-standing legal loopholes in Hong Kong. It will ensure both the long-term implementation of the policy of One Country, Two Systems on the basis of rule of law and durable security and stability of Hong Kong. Several million residents of Hong Kong signed a petition in support of the legislation, which demonstrates their longing for peace and stability in Hong Kong and their strong support for the national security legislation.

 

“一国两制”是中国的既定国策,维护好、发展好“一国两制”,靠的是祖国内地的鼎力支持,靠的是更加完备的法律环境,靠的是香港同胞的团结奋斗。粗暴干涉香港事务的言行恰恰是在破坏“一国两制”的健康运行,必将遭到包括香港同胞在内所有炎黄子孙的坚决抵制。

China is committed to the policy of One Country, Two Systems. With the strong support from the mainland, an improved legal environment, and the united efforts of our Hong Kong compatriots, we can surely uphold and better implement the policy of One Country, Two Systems. The gross interference in Hong Kong affairs, be it in words or action, can only undermine the sound implementation of the policy of One Country, Two Systems. It will meet with the firm rejection from all the Chinese people, including the people of Hong Kong.

 

新华社记者:近日美方关闭中国驻休斯敦总领馆,声称总领馆是中方间谍和盗窃知识产权的枢纽,中方已做出对等反制,关闭美驻成都总领馆。你是否担心中美“外交战”轮番升级?

Xinhua: The US recently closed the Chinese Consulate-General in Houston, claiming that it was a hub of spying and intellectual property theft. China made a reciprocal response by closing the US Consulate-General in Chengdu. Are you concerned that this will lead to escalation in a China-US “diplomatic war”?

 

王毅:中国驻休斯敦总领馆是中美建交之后中方在美国开设的第一个总领馆,一直都是中美友好的重要象征。40多年来,驻休斯敦总领馆为促进两国人民的友谊与合作发挥了重要作用,即使在疫情期间,也积极主动克服困难,为美国南部地区与中国开展抗疫合作搭建了重要桥梁。关闭这样一个具有重要历史和现实意义的总领馆,就相当于关闭了一扇中美两国人民相互沟通了解的窗口,对中美关系的正常发展和民间友好都造成了损害。而且美方所罗列的所有理由都是欲加之罪,信口雌黄,没有一条能拿得出证据,经得起检验。

Wang Yi: The Chinese Consulate-General in Houston was the first Consulate-General opened by China in the US after the establishment of the diplomatic ties, and it was always an important symbol of China-US friendship. Over the past 40 plus years, the Chinese Consulate-General in Houston played a significant role in promoting friendship and cooperation between the Chinese and American peoples. Despite the difficulties encountered during the COVID-19 epidemic, it served as a crucial bridge for boosting cooperation against coronavirus between the US southern states and China. Closing such a consulate-general that bears both historical and current significance is closing a window for exchange and mutual understanding between the Chinese and Americans. This move has undermined the normal growth of China-US relations and the friendship between the two peoples. All the excuses for closure claimed by the US side are nothing but fabrications designed to slander China. None of them is backed by any evidence, and none of them can stand up to scrutiny.

 

对于美方的蛮横无理,中方当然不会坐视不管,我们的反制措施合情、合理、合法,也完全符合外交惯例。中方没有意愿也没有兴趣与美方打什么“外交战”,因为这只会对两国人民的利益造成更多损害。发动“外交战”也并不证明美国的强大,反而暴露出美国越来越缺乏自信。如果美方还要一错再错,那中方必将奉陪到底。

Naturally, China would not swallow this arbitrary and unscrupulous US move. Our countermeasure is legitimate, justified and lawful, and it fully conforms to diplomatic norms. China has no intention to fight a “diplomatic war” with the US as it will only hurt the interests of the two peoples even more. Starting a “diplomatic war” does not prove the strength of the US. Quite the contrary, it only exposes the increasing lack of confidence of the US. If the US is bent on going down the wrong path, China is ready to make due response.

 

新华社记者:美方对华为全方位围堵打压,并扬言联合其他国家打造“清洁国家联盟”。很多人认为,美方举动实际上反映出内心的焦虑和恐惧。你对此怎么看?

Xinhua: The US is going after Huawei in every possible way, and has declared to build a coalition of “clean countries” to counter China. Many see this as a reflection of US anxiety and fear. What is your take on this?

 

王毅:在没有任何真凭实据情况下,美国在全球范围内不择手段地围堵打压中国一家民营企业,演绎了一场教科书式的霸凌。任何人都一目了然,美国的目的就是要维护自身的科技垄断地位,剥夺其他国家的正当发展权利。这种毫不加掩饰的霸道,不仅破坏了公平的国际贸易规则,也损害了自由的全球市场环境。我要再次强调,包括华为在内,许多目前被美国单边制裁的中国企业都是无辜的,他们的技术和产品也是安全的,从未对任何一个国家造成危害。反而是“棱镜门”“梯队系统”这样的丑闻背后都有美国的影子,美国在全世界窃听、监控其他国家的不良行径已是世人皆知。美国并没有资格打造什么“清洁国家联盟”,因为它自己早已满身污迹。

Wang Yi: Without any solid evidence, the US has launched a global campaign against a private Chinese company. This is a textbook example of bullying. Everyone can see easily and clearly that the US goal is to keep its monopoly in science and technology but deny other countries the legitimate right to development. It doesn’t even bother to disguise its bullying. This not only violates the international rules of fair trade, but also hurts the free global market environment.

I’d like to stress again that Huawei and many other Chinese companies, unilaterally sanctioned by the US, are innocent. Their technologies and products are safe to use, and they have never done any harm to any country. In stark contrast, the US is behind such scandals as PRISM and ECHELON. It conducts wire-tapping and mass surveillance around the globe, and these wrongful acts are already an open secret. The US is not qualified to build a coalition of “clean countries” because itself is dirty all over.

 

以信息化为代表的新一轮科技革命正在加速推进。中国将继续与世界各国一道,致力于维护公平、公正、开放、非歧视的营商环境,促进国际科技交流与合作,让安全、可靠、优质的信息技术为全球经济复苏和各国人民美好生活提供新的动力。希望美国也能改变狭隘自私的心态,重回开放与合作的正道。

The new science and technology revolution, driven by information technology, is picking up speed. China will continue to work with all countries to maintain a fair, just, open and non-discriminatory business environment, promote international exchanges and cooperation in science and technology, and ensure that safe, reliable and quality information technology will boost global economic recovery and help improve people’s lives around the world. We hope that the US will give up its obsession with its narrow self-interest, and return to the right track of openness and cooperation.

 

新华社记者:一些美方政客近期频繁攻击中国共产党,极力挑拨中国共产党同中国人民之间的关系。在中美建交41年后的今天,美方这么做,你认为是出于什么动机?

Xinhua: Some US politicians are making fierce attacks on the Communist Party of China (CPC), attempting to pit it against the Chinese people. Forty-one years after China and the US established diplomatic relations, what do you think is the US motive in so doing?

 

王毅:美国国内总有一股势力,企图否定中国共产党的领导,否定中国特色社会主义道路,他们的目的很清楚,就是要遏制中国,搞乱中国。

Wang Yi: There have always been forces in the United States attempting to rebut the leadership role of the CPC and China’s path of socialism with Chinese characteristics. Their purpose is notably obvious, i.e., to contain and destabilize China.

 

明年将是中国共产党成立100周年。回首百年,正是有了中国共产党,中国人民才彻底摆脱被殖民、被奴役的命运,真正实现了民族解放和独立;正是在中国共产党的带领下,我们找到了中国特色社会主义发展道路,把中国从一穷二白建设成世界第二大经济体;也正是在中国共产党的带领下,我们让中国的人均国内生产总值从40多年前的不到200美元增长到如今1万多美元,让8亿多人彻底摆脱了贫困。中国共产党领导中国人民所进行的伟大奋斗彪炳史册,是人类现代化历史进程中最壮丽的篇章。

Next year will mark the 100th anniversary of the CPC. Over the past century, the CPC has led the Chinese people to discard colonial rule and exploitation and realize national liberation and independence. It is the CPC that has led us in blazing the path of socialism with Chinese characteristics, turning the once impoverished country into the world’s second largest economy. It is under the CPC leadership that China’s per capita GDP has grown from less than US$200 forty years ago to over US$10,000 today, and over 800 million people have been lifted out of poverty. The great endeavor of the Chinese people under the CPC leadership has been recorded in the history of modernization as an outstanding, epoch-making chapter.

 

实践是检验真理的唯一标准,人民是历史的阅卷人。中国的制度好不好,中国人民最有发言权。哈佛大学肯尼迪政府学院在中国进行了13年连续调研,他们的调查显示,中国人民对党领导下的中国政府满意度高达93%。近年来,不少国际机构的民调也显示,中国民众对政府的信任度超过九成。中国共产党与中国人民的关系如同鱼和水一样交融,如同大地与种子一样共生,试图割裂和挑拨中国共产党和中国人民的血肉联系,就是与14亿中国人民为敌。

Practice is the sole criterion of truth, and the people are the judges of history. Does China’s system work for the country? The Chinese people know better than anyone else. The Harvard Kennedy School’s surveys in China which extended 13 years suggest that over 93% of the Chinese people are satisfied with the central government which is led by the CPC. Many international polls in recent years also show that at least 90% of the Chinese people trust their government. The relationship between the CPC and the Chinese people is as close as between “fish and water” and between “soil and seed”. Those who attempt to break this strong bond is making themselves enemies of the 1.4 billion Chinese people.

 

我们对中国特色社会主义制度有着强大自信,同时我们尊重世界各国人民自主选择的发展道路,无意同任何国家进行制度竞争,无意同任何国家搞意识形态对抗。我们也希望美方能尊重中国的社会制度,尊重中国人民的选择,放弃注定失败的干涉主义。正如习近平主席指出,我们有坚强决心、坚定意志、坚实国力应对挑战,有足够的勇气、能力、智慧战胜各种风险考验,任何国家任何人都不能阻挡中华民族实现伟大复兴的历史步伐。

We have great confidence in our path of socialism with Chinese characteristics. In the meantime, we also respect the development paths chosen by other nations. We are not interested in rivalry of systems, or ideological confrontation with any country. Likewise, we hope that the US will respect China’s social system and the Chinese people’s choice, and give up its failed interventionism. As President Xi Jinping pointed out, we have the strong determination, resolve and national strength to overcome all challenges. We have the courage, ability and wisdom to prevail over all risks and tests. No country or individual can hold back the historic march toward the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.

 

新华社记者:蓬佩奥鼓吹成立新的“民主联盟”来应对中国,胁迫其他国家在所谓“自由”和“专制”之间做出选择。但我们注意到他的这番话在国际上应者寥寥。你认为美方的企图能得逞吗?

Xinhua: Pompeo is calling for a new alliance of democracies against China, and forcing other countries to choose between what he called “freedom” and “tyranny”. But we noticed that very few nations answered the call. Do you think that the US will get what it wants?

 

王毅:煽动对抗、制造分裂的行径历史上并不罕见,但最终无一不被人们所唾弃。在人类进入21世纪的今天,竟然又有人跳出来想拉下新的铁幕、制造新的分裂,搞政治认同和阵营对抗的老一套。这是公然蔑视人类的进步和智慧,也是公然大开历史的倒车,与时代潮流格格不入,与大多数国家愿望背道而驰,当然不得人心,注定应者寥寥。

Wang Yi: Instigation for confrontation and division was not rare in history, but was all rebuked by the people. In the 21st century, it is inconceivable that some people intend to draw an iron curtain, stoke new division, advocate identity politics and bloc rivalry, and resort to other old tricks. This is a blatant contempt of human progress and wisdom as well as a regression of history. It goes against the trend of our times and the will of most nations. Naturally it has no support of the people, and few backing in the world.

 

中国是从帝国主义和殖民主义压迫中打破专制、赢得自由的国家。自由、民主、法治早已写入中国的宪法,也已成为中国特色社会主义核心价值观的重要内容。同时我们深知,自由不是放任,科学理性、法律秩序以及国际规则都是自由的基础。在疫情期间,根据防疫专家的科学建议,中国人民戴上口罩,却被有些美国政客攻击,说这是中国“专制”和“不自由”的表现,结果现在他们打了自己的脸。

China achieved freedom from imperialism and colonialism. Freedom, democracy and rule of law are codified in China’s Constitution. They are also part of the core socialist values. In addition, we also know that freedom has boundaries. Respect for science, reason, law and order as well as international rules are the basis of freedom. In fighting COVID-19, the Chinese people follow experts’ advice to wear masks. However, some US politicians attacked this, calling it an example of “tyranny” and “no freedom” in China. At the end of the day, they have been slapped in the face by the reality.

 

中国自古以来就是崇尚“和合”的国家,认为“分则争,争则乱,乱则穷”。中方一贯反对以意识形态划分世界的危险做法。为此,我们积极倡导合作共赢的新型国际关系,全面发展同各国友好合作,建立起覆盖全球的伙伴关系网络。习近平主席提出构建人类命运共同体的重大倡议,就是为了超越不同制度的分歧,摒弃零和博弈的思维,形成不同国家、不同民族、不同文明的共同奋斗方向,中方将为实现这一全人类的美好愿景做出自己的不懈努力。

China has valued peace and cooperation since ancient times, believing that “division leads to rivalry, which leads to chaos, which leads to poverty.” China always opposes dangerous acts to divide the world along ideological lines. To this end, we advocate a new type of international relations featuring win-win cooperation. We pursue friendship and cooperation with all countries. And we endeavor to forge a global network of partnerships. President Xi Jinping calls for building a community with a shared future for mankind. This major initiative is aimed to rise above differences in system, abandon the zero-sum mentality, and find a common goal for all countries, nationalities and civilizations. China will work unrelentingly for this lofty vision for mankind.

 

新华社记者:蓬佩奥称中国渴望建立世界霸权。但大家都知道,恰恰是美国在国际上动辄“毁约退群”。国际上很多人担心未来的国际秩序会受到重大影响,你对此怎么看?

Xinhua: Pompeo claims that China desires global hegemony. But everyone knows that it is the US that is willfully withdrawing from international treaties and organizations. Many worry that this will have a big impact on the future international order. What is your take?

 

王毅:当前国际秩序和国际体系面临的现实挑战是,美国作为综合实力最强的国家却将本国优先作为行事标准,把单边主义和霸凌主义推行到极致,不惜抛弃国际责任和多边规则,甚至在疫情最吃紧的时刻,无理攻击并退出世界卫生组织。本届美国政府退出的国际条约数量,已经超过美国以往任何一届政府,成为现行国际秩序的最大破坏者。

Wang Yi: The real challenge to the current international order and system is that the United States, the strongest country in the world, places its own interests above everything else, and takes this as its code of conduct. It has gone extreme to pursue unilateralism and bullying, even at the cost of international responsibilities and multilateral rules. At the height of COVID-19, it went so far as to groundlessly attack and withdraw from the World Health Organization. The current US administration has pulled out of more international treaties than any one before it, making itself the most damaging force of the current international order.

 

中国始终是国际秩序和国际体系的坚定维护者。新中国成立70多年来,中国从未主动挑起过一场战争,从未侵占过别人的一寸土地。我们将坚持自身和平发展载入宪法,成为世界上第一个做出这一庄重承诺的国家。我们将继续沿着和平发展道路坚定走下去,永远不称霸,永远不搞扩张,永远做维护和平的中坚力量。

China is always a firm defender of the international order and the international system. In the past seven decades and more since the founding of the People’s Republic, China never started a war, or occupied an inch of land of others. We have enshrined in the Constitution our commitment to peaceful development, and we are the first country in the world to make such a solemn pledge. We will continue to adhere to the path of peaceful development, and will never seek hegemony or expansionism. We will always be a staunch force for peace.

 

今年是世界反法西斯战争胜利和联合国成立75周年,在汲取惨痛历史教训的基础上,世界实现了近代以来最长时期的稳定与繁荣。今天,我们不能任由国际体系再被轻易破坏,不能再让这个世界重陷分裂。中国是首个在《联合国宪章》上签字的国家,我们加入了几乎所有国际条约和协议,忠实履行着应尽的国际责任和义务。在攸关世界前途命运的重大关头,我们将继续坚定捍卫和践行多边主义,坚定维护以联合国为核心的国际体系,坚定推进世界多极化和国际关系民主化。

This year marks the 75th anniversary of the victory of the World Anti-Fascist War and the founding of the United Nations. Having learned hard lessons from the past, the world has ensured the longest period of stability and prosperity in modern times. We must not allow the international system to be undermined arbitrarily, or the world divided again. China was the first to put its signature on the UN Charter. China has joined almost all international treaties and agreements, and has been faithfully fulfilling its due international responsibilities and obligations. At a time when the future of the world is at stake, China will continue to champion and pursue multilateralism, safeguard the UN-centered international system, and promote multipolarity and greater democracy in international relations.

 

新华社记者:美方近来明显加大介入南海问题。蓬佩奥声明否定中国在南海主权权益,美军在南海举行双航母演练,并频频派军机军舰抵近侦察。有人认为,美国在南海制造摩擦冲突的可能性上升。南海还能否保持风平浪静?

Xinhua: The US has significantly stepped up its intervention in the South China Sea. In his recent statement, Pompeo dismissed China’s sovereign rights and interests in the South China Sea. The US has conducted “dual carrier operations” there, and kept sending military vessels and aircraft on reconnaissance missions aimed at China. Some people think that the possibility for the US to provoke frictions and conflicts in the South China Sea is increasing. Can peace and stability still be maintained in the South China Sea?

 

王毅:最近美国在南海不断挑事:一是违背多年来不选边站队的承诺,公然介入南海领土主权争议。二是不断加大和炫耀在南海军事存在,仅今年上半年美国军机在南海的活动就多达2000多次。三是大肆挑拨中国与东盟国家关系,干扰“南海行为准则”的磋商进程。美方的目的就是要把南海搞乱,把地区国家绑上美国战车,从而服务于其国内政治和地缘战略。地区国家都要提高警觉,不能让美方肆意破坏来之不易的和平与发展成果。

Wang Yi: The US has recently taken a number of provocative actions in the South China Sea. First, the US has breached its longstanding commitment of not taking sides, and blatantly interfered in the territorial disputes. Second, the US keeps increasing and showing off its military presence in the South China Sea. In the first half of this year alone, the US sent military aircraft there more than 2,000 times. Third, the US is seeking to drive a wedge between China and ASEAN countries, and disrupt the consultation process of the Code of Conduct. The US purpose is to destabilize the South China Sea, and hijack regional countries onto its chariot to serve US domestic politics and geopolitical agenda. All regional countries should be vigilant, and prevent this region’s hard-won peace and development from being sabotaged by the US.

 

南海是地区国家的共同家园,不能成为国际政治的角斗场。经过多年努力,地区国家已经找到了妥善解决分歧的有效途径,达成了中国和东盟国家共同维护南海和平稳定的明确共识。事实已经证明,通过对话解决争端才是最符合地区国家利益的正道,维护南海和平稳定是地区国家共同的任务。当前形势下,中方建议排除一切干扰,尽快重启“南海行为准则”磋商,争取早日达成这一有利于维护南海长治久安的地区规则。同时,中国也愿继续同沿岸国加强海上合作,深化安全互信,推动共同开发,真正使南海成为和平之海、友谊之海、合作之海。

The South China Sea is the shared home for the countries in the region. It should not be a wrestling ground for international politics. Thanks to years of hard work, countries in the region have found effective ways to properly address their differences, and reached an unequivocal consensus that China and ASEAN countries should work together to safeguard peace and stability in the South China Sea. Facts have proved that settling disputes through dialogue is the right way that best serves the interests of regional countries, and countries in the region have a shared responsibility to keep the South China Sea peaceful and stable. Under the current situation, China proposes that we remove all disturbances to restart as soon as possible the Code of Conduct consultation, and agree as early as possible on a set of rules for maintaining long-term peace and stability in the region. In the meantime, China is prepared to strengthen maritime cooperation with other littoral countries, deepen mutual security confidence, and advance joint development, so as to make the South China Sea a sea of peace, friendship and cooperation.

 

新华社记者:当前中美关系处于建交以来最困难的时期。从现在到11月美大选前,你对中美关系感到乐观还是悲观?中美双方当前最需要做什么?

Xinhua: The China-US relationship is at the most difficult time since the establishment of diplomatic ties. Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the relationship between now and the US election in November? What should be the priorities for the two countries at the moment?

 

王毅:中国的对美政策保持着连续性和稳定性,同时我们也做好了中美关系爬坡过坎、经历风雨的准备。从根本上讲,美国寻求将中国打造成对手是严重战略误判,是把自身战略资源投入到错误的方向。中方始终愿本着不冲突不对抗、相互尊重、合作共赢精神,与美方共同构建一个协调、合作、稳定的中美关系。同时,我们也必将坚定捍卫自身的主权、安全、发展利益,因为这是作为一个独立主权国家的正当权利。美国应当履行《联合国宪章》倡导的各国主权平等原则,学会并适应与不同制度、不同文明和平共存,接受世界走向多极化的现实。

Wang Yi: China’s US policy is always consistent and stable. In the meantime, we are also prepared for possible bumps and storms ahead. The US move to turn China into an adversary is a fundamental, strategic miscalculation. It means that the US is funneling its strategic resources in the wrong area. We are always ready to develop a China-US relationship featuring no conflict, no confrontation, mutual respect and win-win cooperation based on coordination, cooperation and stability. In the meantime, we will firmly defend our sovereignty, security and development interests, because this is a legitimate right inherent in China being an independent sovereign state. The US should honor the principle of sovereign equality enshrined in the UN Charter, learn how to get along with different systems and civilizations and adapt itself to peaceful coexistence, and accept the reality that the world is moving toward multipolarity.

 

面对中美关系建交以来的最复杂局面,我们有必要为中美关系树立清晰框架:

Faced with the most complex situation since the establishment of diplomatic relations in 1979, we need to put in place a clear-cut framework for the relationship:

一要明确底线,避免对抗。中美关系要健康发展,关键是坚持相互尊重。中国从来无意也不会干涉美国的大选和内政,美国也应该丢掉按自己的需要改造中国的幻想,停止对中国内部事务的无理干涉,停止对中国正当权益的蛮横打压。

First, steer clear of red lines and avoid confrontation. For China-US relations to develop soundly, the most critical thing is mutual respect. China never intends to and will never interfere in US elections or other US internal affairs. Likewise, the US must abandon its fantasy of remodeling China to US needs. It must stop its meddling in China’s internal affairs, and stop its irrational cracking down on China’s legitimate rights and interests.

二要畅通渠道,坦诚对话。对话是解决问题的前提,没有对话,问题只会越积越多,甚至导致失控。中方对话的大门是敞开的,我们愿秉持平等开放态度同美方沟通交流,恢复重启各层级、各领域的对话机制。

Second, keep the channels open for candid dialogue. Dialogue is the prerequisite for addressing problems. Without dialogue, problems will only pile up and even get out of control. China’s door to dialogue remains open. We are willing, in the spirit of equality and open-mindedness, to talk and interact with the US, and resume dialogue mechanisms at all levels and in all fields.

三要拒绝脱钩,保持合作。中美利益已深度交融,强行脱钩将使两国关系受到长远冲击,危及国际产业链安全和各国利益。疫情当前,我们愿与美方在疫情防控、经济复苏等领域开展互利合作,相互借鉴和分享抗疫经验,共同参与和推动全球抗疫多边合作。

Third, reject decoupling and uphold cooperation. The interests of the two countries are deeply entwined. Forced decoupling will inflict a lasting impact on bilateral relations, and endanger the security of international industrial chains and interests of all countries. With COVID-19 still raging across the world, China is prepared to have mutually beneficial cooperation with the US on epidemic control and economic recovery, learn from each other and share experience on containing COVID-19, and join together with the US the global response and multilateral cooperation in fighting COVID-19.

四要放弃零和,共担责任。这场疫情再次证明人类是休戚与共的命运共同体。当今世界全球性问题层出不穷,传统安全与非传统安全挑战交织,几乎所有的国际和地区热点问题都离不开中美以及世界各国的协调应对。中美双方应当秉持人类情怀,履行大国责任,在联合国等多边机制中开展必要协调合作,共同致力于世界的和平与稳定。

 Fourth, abandon the zero-sum mentality and stand up to shared responsibilities. COVID-19 again makes it clear that humanity is a community with a shared future. Our world still faces many global challenges. Traditional and non-traditional security challenges are intertwined. Almost all regional and international hotspot issues require a coordinated response from China, the US and other countries. China and the US must always bear in mind the well-being of mankind, live up to their responsibilities as two major countries, coordinate and cooperate as needed in the UN and other multilateral institutions, and work together for world peace and stability.


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